In a Decoder interview, The Verge's Nilay Patel talks with Helen Toner, the former OpenAI board member who voted to fire Sam Altman, who says AI CEOs cannot be trusted and that pinning safety hopes on any one person leaves us "screwed". The wide-ranging conversation covers OpenAI's restructuring, labs racing toward superintelligence, AI models hacking companies, cyber defense, US-China competition, Congress, and whether alignment can be solved before the builders' feared 12-to-24-month window.